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Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:12:00 - [1] - Quote So, he's shooting at the Jita statue in real life? And didn't even blow it to scrap. That's sad.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 22:56:00 - [2] - Quote Money Makin Mitch wrote: ridiculous. defacing an actual physical monument, while a guest in the host country, is wrong. perp needs banning at the least, if not criminal charges. If we pressed charges against everyone who committed crimes at Fanfest, theMittani would be doing about five more years.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.04 23:38:00 - [3] - Quote Seven Koskanaiken wrote: Whoever did it likely searched for Xenuria's name with the name finder tool. Is it possible to find out IPs who sent requests for that name earlier today around the tweet time? Surprisingly, you'll find that courts have ruled that IP addressees are not evidence, at least in the US. They're too easily faked.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:12:00 - [4] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Yeah, wanting someone to be held accountable for an actual crime is definitely hypocrisy. Defacing property is so much more serious than attempting to end someone's life in the world of goons? You do know that Mittens would have been looking at jail time if CCP or what's his name had pressed charges, right? Reiisha wrote: Also, what's with people claiming this is just spaceship shenanigans? If i come over and blow up your kitchen because of a difference we have in EVE, does that mean i go free 'because it's just because of a game'? Actually damaging something in RL, whether it's just a scratch or dropping a nuke on it, is a crime in any country. Because CCP threw wide the gates to this sort of thing not coming down like a tone of bricks on mittens. After all, if doing power points to manipulate someone into taking their own life isn't a serious crime, vandalism is hardly worth talking about.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:14:00 - [5] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: What country are you from? Seneca Nation of Indians.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:17:00 - [6] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: He said country. It is, ask the US Congress.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:24:00 - [7] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: I like where this thread has gone. Community outrage --> internet lawyering ---> crimes against humanity and attempted murder ---> Grrr Goons. It always comes back to Grrr Goons. Well, if it wasn't the Goons who are up here saying that it's a horrible crime that needs prosecuted, with what can only be called staggering hypocrisy, you wouldn't have the Grr Goons step.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:28:00 - [8] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: I'm sorry, I can't help but find it hilarious. Deface my name on the monument and I'd probably wet myself laughing. I'm hoping if they ever bag mine, they at least have the decency to hit it with thermite, or at least a pencil torch, after all the 'Kill it with FIRE!' posts about me. James Amril-Kesh wrote: You still have yet to demonstrate the hypocrisy. Since you seem to utterly fail to understand why Mittens would be a criminal, here is a brief primer. http://www.wisegeek.org/what-are-internet-harassment-laws.htm So, yes, hypocrisy.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 429	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:39:00 - [9] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Yes, if you have absolutely no idea how the law works, then yes, it could seem like staggering hypocrisy. That doesn't mean it actually is though, it just means your skewed view makes it appear that way. It's kinda like magic, but stupid. So, he didn't get on stage and present a power point presentation geared toward harassing someone until they committed suicide? (A very, very serious form of internet harassment that carries the maximum sentence, and at the very least can be argued as intent to commit even if proof could not be offered that he had indeed done such a thing) I'll file that one away with "the holocaust never happened". It's revisionism, plain and simple.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 00:55:00 - [10] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Oh, and an indian tribe isn't a country. Not recognized by any international body. They're not a nation any more than Broncos fans. Recognized by: the United States of America The United Nations (though not a member state) The United Kingdom Canada France Probably some others I don't know about If you don't believe me, please come on our territory and commit a crime. The US DEA did. And they were arrested and deported. While we may be considered a 'domestically dependent nation' we are in still in fact a sovereign country.

Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 01:14:00 - [11] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: The two are mutually exclusive terms. It's part of the US governments elaborate dance on native sovereignty. We're in a better position than most nations, we got it in writing early on. We're 'domestically dependent' only in the sense that we agreed to give up our army in exchange for the US to do the job. I might point out Japan had the same arraignment for quite some time.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 01:26:00 - [12] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: As a result, I'm still a little clueless about the value of internet lawyering. Can you help me out? Ha. As to which one applies it would depend on the victims location. The US has this weird thing that they consider the 'location' of crimes committed involving the internet to not be where the person committing the crime was, but where the victim was. So which applies is a good question, I admit, and might not apply at all, if they were located in the right jurisdiction. This is why they get things like United States v. ElcomSoft and Dmitry Sklyarov and the whole Kim Dotcom debacle. So far, all the cases tried under this (that I know of) have been either plea bargained or the case dropped. I'll be honest, it would be interesting to see someone move the whole way through the system on this one without a plea bargain to see if this holds up under scrutiny or not, and on of the reasons that I've been watching the Megaupload thing closely. Megaupload was located in Hong Kong, and about as far from US sovereignty as one can get. And unlike the average guy, they have the money to fight.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 01:33:00 - [13] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: The difference is that Japan is actually a sovereign nation, notably with it's own representation in the U.N., it doesn't just call itself one. Again, feel free to come here and commit a crime in front of the Seneca Marshals. They WILL arrest you and DO have the power to do so. The court DOES have the power to punish your ass, and you DO NOT have rights under the law but the one's OUR laws give you as long as you are on OUR sovereign territory. It's why you can't get a mortgage in Salamanca, but China was willing to lend us half a billion dollars. I don't see them doing that for the Broncos.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 01:47:00 - [14] - Quote Xavier Higdon wrote: Hello! I thought I was the only Haudenosaunee playing EvE Online! Please stop grring at goons, though, as it gives me and potentially ones of other Iroquois players a bad name. And if you actually live on Seneca lands, then you should be well aware that regardless of the number of treaties the US government might need to break in order to impugn our Sovereignty, they'll do it, so asking them might not be too good of an idea to back up our claim that we are a confederacy of free nations. Yes, I do (though at the moment am Down in Pennsylvania for work), I know that, I still remember back to 1998. (LOL @ potentially ones of others. We probably have more if we count the guys in Oklahoma) Though, point of fact, that's true of any country that if they decide to pick on their smaller neighbors, they're gonna do it, treaties or no. Look at what's going on in Eastern Europe right now. But this asshat is insisting that SNI is NOT a 'real' country. I find that deeply offensive. I've been to the National Library and National Museum. They suck, but we have them. I bet if we were white like Luxembourg he'd have no problem with us being a nation.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 02:19:00 - [15] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Whether a group calls itself a sovereign nation or not is not relevant if they exist solely at the sufferance of a larger nation. If that is the case, they are not a sovereign state, the larger one is just letting them play at it. By that logic, The only nations in Europe are France, England, and Germany, and the only thing in Eastern Europe is Russia. I think it safe to say that all those people would be deeply offended if you compared their countries to Denver Broncos fans. Indeed, I think it safe to say that CCP might take offense if you pointed out Iceland existed only at the sufferance of Denmark. Xavier Higdon wrote: And the fact that we went from being nearly exterminated to owning some of the most lucrative casinos in the country just makes some people jealous. Personally I think it's the fact we finally figured away to turn their greed against them. Used to be that no one ever wanted to go to see a native, unless it was to try and cheat us some how. Now we have to hire buses to transport them all, and they come in and just give us their money. One million dollars a day in profit. And are happy about it. That's the part that blows my mind. Why didn't we think of this sooner?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 430	Posted - 2014.05.05 02:56:00 - [16] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I love it when people call out others for a perceived slight while saying more than a few genuinely prejudiced things themselves. Oh, and Iceland exists solely at the sufferance of NATO, big difference. You also forgot Spain and Italy in your list. And it doesn't particularly bother me if it offends them to be compared to Denver Broncos fans. "I'm offended" has long since changed it's meaning into "I can't disprove what you said but it hurt my feelings anyway", for which I am truly, utterly unrepentant. It's not like I haven't heard ad nauseum how much America sucks. If it gets dished out, it gets dished out to everybody. That's what fair really is. I hate to ask, but it's it's not greed that draws people to casinos, what is? The buffet? Let me be really blunt: No one ever wanted to come to a reservation, and for good damn reason. A lot of them used to be the sort of hell you normally would only find in places like Rwanda. No one ever came there of their own free will except various people over the years who (mostly) tried to cheat us. or murder us. Or do any number of other unpleasant things. Greedy people swarmed on them like flies on a corpse and hoped that the US government would back whatever scam they were pushing. You might note, I did not say 'white people'. It might be too fine a distinction for you, but greed comes in all colors. And our wars are fought in the board room now, rather than the battlefield. We bring our enemies low, not with a war club, but with a better product, cheaper. As far as Spain, I think it safe to say that Napoleon and Wellington disproved that. And, btw: NATO, in the past, has generally adopted a hands off policy when two member states have a 'dispute' and tend to palm the issue off on the UN. It's when a nonmember state invades a member that they get... upset. It still requires the member state to last long enough to invoke article 5 of the Washington treaty, and even then what aid gets sent might not be what they were looking for.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 431	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:10:00 - [17] - Quote Rhiannon Marius wrote: Um you guys realize that country and nation are not the same thing right? There are many recognized native american nations but no recognized native american countries. Point of fact, a country can exist without sovereignty. The Seneca Nation was recognized as a sovereign state in an act of US Congress. That's really all that's technically required. There are all sorts of shades that follow, and this is probably not the forum for a discussion of international politics and all the dog and pony shows that go along with it, but in a nutshell all that's really required is that one or more other countries recognize it as sovereign. This was the issue China had with the UN for many years was they were NOT recognized, even though they were the de facto rulers of China. I dunno if this helps explain this at all, but basically we're sovereign because we have paper that says so. In theory we could have our own armies and prisons etc, we have the money, but at the moment the status quo is to the benefit of all parties. We sit back and make lots of money, and slowly buy back our territory from the US. It's slow going, but we've been making headway buying up Buffalo and Niagara Falls, and are working on other areas.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 432	Posted - 2014.05.05 03:25:00 - [18] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: As for Cygnet, I am rather sure I'm not getting any more useful discussion out of you, but I may as well try. What "enemies"? What "wars"? Are you being serious? That sounds like something you took out of a South Park episode. I was speaking a bit metaphorically, but to put it simply, instead of marching armies across boarders and seizing land, we're just buying it off them. If a company tries to pollute our lands, we run them out of business. We work with unions to picket their plants. We broadcast their names on our media outlets and unleash muckraking journalists followed by lawyers. We shut down political opponents not by taking their hair, but, by looking like the good guys because we open businesses in their area and employ the people that they couldn't get jobs.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 432	Posted - 2014.05.05 04:25:00 - [19] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: I hate to cherrypick you, but this statement coming from someone who has taken the position that a group of a few hundred people constitute a country is fairly ironic. This might be a point... if there were only a few hundred of us. Grand total the Seneca come to something like 25k people. More when you get into 'unregistered' natives and sub groups like the Minqua. You're looking at several million factoring in the League. (The Western Door isn't just the name of our franchise of steak houses) James Amril-Kesh wrote: I heard Xenuria tortures Furbies. You say that like it's a bad thing.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 433	Posted - 2014.05.05 05:01:00 - [20] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: It was clearly a Goon and you are all the same. End of/. IF it did turn out to be a goon, the forum would probably break from all the sudden 180's from posters.

Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 433	Posted - 2014.05.05 05:19:00 - [21] - Quote Scipio Artelius wrote: As long as you were able to recognise that my remark was sarcastic, then sure, I totally agree - though the actions of a single person don't reflect on the character or actions of the group as a whole. However, if you thought that was a statement of my true opinion. It wasn't. I'm aware it was sarcasm, however, mine wasn't. The typical reaction would be to abruptly close ranks and keep repeating the official alliance line, whatever it might be, and to troll anyone who pointed out that they had just been screaming for the culprits blood. There might be an apology trotted out and the person involved might quietly be demoted or tossed from the alliance. This would not even be unique to goons. Just about every alliance in game more or less responds the same way. It would be hilarious if it was though. I'd love to watch all of them suddenly backpedal when their bosses jerk the leash. Shalua Rui wrote: Wow, that is... kinda shameful... and worrisome. I mean, I myself often joke about the fact that EVE is a cestpool of villany, a playground for sociopaths, and all that, but I actually didn't believe people would be like that IRL, be they Goons, NO or whatever group/mindset ingame... Sad... You have to understand that the internet is all the garbage under the skin of civility that society forces on people. If you want to see how people really are, what really goes on in their heads, without an inhibition, look around these forums. I'd have no problem believing someone would totally demolish the monument. Because that's who some of our fellow players really are when you get down to it.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 436	Posted - 2014.05.05 07:41:00 - [22] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Cygnet, you forget that we weren't so shy about casting someone else out. Someone who was so recently involved in a scandal of their own. Or maybe you didn't realize that Erotica 1 was also beancounter jaynara who was in GSF until he bragged about his little games and got himself ejected from the CFC. There was never a point where anyone tried to hide that he had been in GSF, in fact quite the opposite. You might get a laugh, but I missed the entire Erotica thing, and am sort of glad I did. What little I've heard sounds entirely sordid, and frankly, and I grant this is based on very incomplete information, I'm sure, GSF needs to take a long hard look at the sort of people it's attracting. I can remember a time, a very long time ago now, it seems, that goons were respected instead of reviled. That the arrival of goons in system was seen as a positive thing. However, most of those goons, the few that I knew, have long since left Eve.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 441	Posted - 2014.05.05 17:54:00 - [23] - Quote Again, given Eve players, anyone is surprised by this? When you make a point to recruit the douchebags of the internet as players, it's startling to anyone that they act like douchebags?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 441	Posted - 2014.05.05 20:04:00 - [24] - Quote All I can say is look at your fellow players, and tell me with a straight face you are surprised one of them did this?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 442	Posted - 2014.05.05 20:53:00 - [25] - Quote Andski wrote: Let's break it down for you Some people in this thread have been saying that these incidents are the result of CCP's permissive attitude towards "sociopathic behavior" in their game. I assume that "sociopathic behavior" refers to suicide ganking and scamming. Might want to take a look at the response by eve players toward the dusties. There's a lot of 'I got mine, and you guys can go to hell' going on. Andski wrote: Those people are wrong because the waitstaff, bartenders, bouncers, maitres d' and others who have hosted EVE fans in their bars, restaurants and hotels tend to only ever have good things to say about the Fanfest attendees who patronize their businesses. They're wrong because these incidents aren't the norm at Fanfest. That isn't to say that these people would complain to CCP about Fanfest attendees doing bad things in their restaurants, but the people of Reykjavik are quite closely-knit and word of EVE fans tearing ** up in bars and restaurants or checking out of hotels with their rooms torn to shreds and their credit cards cancelled would get around quickly. Remember, Jeffrey Dahmer's neighbors thought he was a great guy, too. Just because someone is a sociopath does not mean they walk down the street destroying all in their path and killing everyone they meet. Those guys get caught and dealt with fairly quickly. Look at the utter lack of basic humanity shown by posters on this very board. The automatic response to personal tragedy and general bad ** happening to people is to ridicule and show near zero empathy. It's practically a breeding ground for anti-social behaviors. So, no, it is absolutely NOT surprising that this happened. Bluntly, I'm surprised the vandalism was so restrained.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 442	Posted - 2014.05.05 21:04:00 - [26] - Quote Rhes wrote: Scratching a monument is just like being a serial killer. His argument was that Eve does not breed sociopathic behavior because no one trashed the bar and hotel. Even the most extreme example, like a serial killer, can function like every day people until something sets them off. His argument is invalid.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 443	Posted - 2014.05.05 22:15:00 - [27] - Quote Marsha Mallow wrote: Erm, you do realise making statements like this make you look like you are completely off your ****, right? Not really. Look, people with serious social issues don't all walk around with a big sign on them that reads 'psycho'. Saying 'Well, they didn't go apescat and smash the place up and were very polite to the waiter' doesn't actually mean anything. You guys can sit there and be as rude and insulting as you like, it doesn't make it any less true.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 443	Posted - 2014.05.05 23:10:00 - [28] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: What the ****, man? After the whole thing with Erotica, it surprises you that you might have actual sociopaths among you? Eve has had in game behaviors like this for years. They actively encourage it. But the idea that players might act out on it in real life shocks you? History time, kiddies. Goons (and not just those in 'goon swarm', but the entire extended goon family all the way back to Something Awful) have been dancing with the possibility of real world repercussions for years. Hell, your illustrious founder has received more death threats than Fidel Castro. To be honest, the fact that more of you have not suffered some sort of real world repercussions, especially those foolish enough to have had their real names and faces published, is surprising. Particularly with things like the time the Second Life branch of goons, for example, had the delightful sense of taste to create an entire replica of the burning World Trade Center towers, complete with falling bodies, according to Wired. Do you think that sort of Karma does not eventually come back around to bite you, somehow?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 444	Posted - 2014.05.06 01:59:00 - [29] - Quote Octoven wrote: What defines a MEANINGFUL landmark is relative to how the person feels about it. For example, I may not give two ***** about the Statue of Liberty, but some one else may see it in a more personally meaningful way. It isn't my place or anyone else to say otherwise. We all take different landmarks and monuments differently than others. Yes it is a crime, but to the people who this monument commemorates its is indeed an insult to their accomplishments. As said, it isn't for you to define if this is indeed meaningful or not, and if it really bothers you that much that others do, then the solution seems quite simple...ignore it. Can you imagine if someone really did serious damage to it? Not just scratched it, blew it sky high. I can see the headlines: 'Eve Monument Ganked, Greifer tells CCP/Judge 'HTFU'.'
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 445	Posted - 2014.05.06 03:07:00 - [30] - Quote Rhes wrote: Scratching a monument is just like a terrorist attack. I wrote a lengthy thing about how you were wrong, but realized ISD would freak with that much explosives information on the forums. In an nutshell, the sort of thing a terrorist would use wouldn't have much effect on it, it would take specialized equipment. Iceland being what it is, there's not a whole lot of explosives and their precursors floating around.

Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 445	Posted - 2014.05.06 03:47:00 - [31] - Quote NEONOVUS wrote: I saw a tacobell, thats enough Also arent there plenty of fermenting foods? What if the monument is over a forgotten shark? That would be terrorism. That'd definitely be classed as a biological attack. In all seriousness, not really. It'd take something with some penetrating power.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 445	Posted - 2014.05.06 03:55:00 - [32] - Quote Shurgin Ambraelle wrote: Carribean Queen wrote: Here's another idea as well. CCP, would it be possible to have a Digital version of the Monument INSIDE OF EVE? One that can't be locked or shot at for people in game to come visit since we can't come to Iceland? You knoq CCP a digital that would be a crazy idea. I mean you did a great monumnet for the first titan pop and an even better one for B-5R what about something like this. A 1.0 system that allows no combat just for a tribute to the players and of EVE. Something different and very large where you could type in your name and warp to it. I maybe asking too much but this is a great idea. Put it outside the ten year station.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 446	Posted - 2014.05.06 04:23:00 - [33] - Quote Shurgin Ambraelle wrote: I like your thinking. Or in a system all by itself. Accessable by 4 jump gates. 1 in each races space. You just described Yulai before the gate changes.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 448	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:24:00 - [34] - Quote Galen Darksmith wrote: It would have been a decent quip from anyone who didn't actually think that the situations were comparable, sure. To be blunt: real murders have happened for things that happened in online games. (The Legend of Mir 3 stabbing death immediately springs to mind) Minor vandalism? So what? The funniest part is that so many of you seem shocked by the idea. Let me ask you a question, did it ever occur to any of you that spending so much time coming up with new and exciting ways to be the biggest **** possible to other people might not be healthy? That it might lead to people doing questionable things in real life?
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 448	Posted - 2014.05.06 06:52:00 - [35] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: People are shocked because the majority of us are responsible adults when we're not busy backstabbing or otherwise screwing each other over in a virtual world. Sure there's going to be the odd fruit cake that takes ingame grievances out of game, we're no different from any other gaming community in that respect, but the fruitcakes are the minority, not the majority. Being an arse in game != being one in real life for most people. I think it would be interesting if we could get a look at the number of players who have left the game due to arrest and conviction for crimes. I think that a lot of you might be surprised, if what I personally think would be the case turns out to be true.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 448	Posted - 2014.05.06 07:38:00 - [36] - Quote Jonah Gravenstein wrote: Which says something about both of us. Yeah, its says you haven't been playing as long as I have. Just wait.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 451	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:41:00 - [37] - Quote Ralph King-Griffin wrote: no, it didn't, largely because a normal healthy adult ... The last three words are key. Maybe my experiences are different than yours, but I don't know a single eve player that would qualify as a normal (you've obviously never met duckeye, for example). Most of them have some serious mental issues. Medalyn Isis wrote: Despicable. So if someone came to vandalise your home, presumably you would be ok with that then. Point of fact, I've had people try major vandalism on my house. It did not work. I was smart enough to invest in bulletproof coverings for my stained glass windows. If you just assume it's going to happen, it's not really hard to take preventative measures. To make reference to Dindsales joke earlier, my house fits a tank. The best they found they could so was to spray some graffiti on the side of the house, that I just as quickly painted over.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 451	Posted - 2014.05.06 14:52:00 - [38] - Quote Jenn aSide wrote: So you have bullet proof windows yet it's other people who have issues? I've been subject to actual death threats from felons I've arrested and I don't have bullet proof windows dude. At some point (hopefully) a person should come to the conclusion that it's not the rest of the universe that is cracked. No, in this case it's common sense. The stained glass windows are 20 feet tall, and cost 30k dollars each, at a discount. Imagine a bird hitting that, or, (as I live about five doors from a school) the more typical punk kid throwing rocks.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 451	Posted - 2014.05.06 15:20:00 - [39] - Quote Bjurn Akely wrote: [ Serious mental issues? OK, Doctor... if you say so. A lot of them it doesn't take a doctor to spot something seriously wrong with some of these people. The guys who neglect their families to play video games? Yeah, not good there, though the one who tried to have sex and run PvP at the same time still stands out in my mind. The two player suicides I know of? Might have had some problems. Cosmic Horror was in a relationship abusive enough that her boyfriend at the time had a friend of his beat her till she miscarried (she was close to where I am and I visited her at the hospital). There was a guy in aridia back in the day who would spam bestiality **** in local that made even Duckeye's worst transgressions against the Minmatar chat channel look mild. It was one of the few good things about BoB running up into Fountain did was I never saw him again. Now, granted, this is over ten years, and just the worst offenders. But yeah.
Cygnet Lythanea World Welfare Works Association Independent Faction 451	Posted - 2014.05.06 16:11:00 - [40] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: GreasyCarl Semah wrote: Andski wrote: GreasyCarl Semah wrote: I keep seeing this number being thrown around and I have to wonder why 90% of them never log in. Clearly the 30-40k that are logged in at any given time are always the exact same players regardless of the time Of course, no one would be stupid enough to believe that we have half a million players that log in once every five days on average. I have five accounts active now, and thanks to my work schedule I can log in for a decent amount of time for 2-3 consecutive days out of every 5 or so. So yeah, it happens. I think he was talking about the average Concurrency numbers, which are down. Further, I suspect, but am not certain, that 500k includes all the servers, not just Tranquility.

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